Arya Samaj

Prabhat · Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: What are the Yuga's really?

Sat Yuga or Golden age = 1,728,000 years

Dwaapur Yuga or Silver age = 1,296,000 years

Treta Yuga or Bronze age = 864,000 years

Kaliyuga or Iron age = 432,000 years
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Shyena · Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject:

This link will partly explain what is sanatana dharmik's view:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga
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Prabhat · Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:40 pm Post subject:

Namaste PD,

so in witch one are we in. and why is it differend that the Vaidikh way
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Shyena · Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject:

Currently, we are in kali yuga's 5107th year. Krishna died on the day of dawn of kali yuga i.e., 14 february 3102 BCE.
Arya Samajist views were partly touched in this thread:
http://aryasamaj.forumwise.com/aryasamaj-thread472.html
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Prabhat · Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject:

Namaste PD.

i have read what swami says about the yuga's

The period covered by Creation is called Brahmadina (God's day), while the period covered by Dissolution is called Braahmaratri (God's night). Brahmadina (God's day) is divided into 1,000 Chaturyugis, each of which is again divided into 4 Yugas or ages, these are:

1. Sat Yuga or Golden age = 1,728,000 years.
2. Dwaapur Yuga or Silver age = 1,296,000 years
3. Treta Yuga or Bronze age = 864,000 years
4. Kaliyuga or Iron age = 432,000 years

The orthodox believe that these Yugas influence the conduct of the human race for good or for evil, hence they have given these Yugas the names of Golden, Silver, Bronze and Iron respectively. The author (Dayanand) does not share this view. - Tr.
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arunk · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:54 am Post subject:

Shyena · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject:

Namaste Prabhat,
What the translator means to say is, the author doesn't share the view that the code of conduct changes over the years.

Namaste Arunk,
Generally the division between traditional hinduism and arya samaj is made with the former being named sanatana dharma. And no, I'm afraid you're greatly mistaken in your view that pauraaniks are sanatana dharmiks. Sanatana Dharmiks are divided into many a types other than the pauraaniks - veerasaivas, smarthas, saivas just to name some, who do not accept puraanas. I belong to smartha sampradaya who are monistic and believe that god can be worshipped in any form, but upasana should be made only with its true formless self.
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Shishya · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject:

Namaste All,

According to Swamiji, the Yugas are simply periods of time. He felt the idea that the Yugas determine the quality of existence (e.g. morality, life-span, etc.) was too fatalistic in its implications. Man would not be free - which is necessary for morality - if the Yuga in which he was born limited his ability to ascertain the truth.

PD, that Wikipedia article is one of the worst I've ever read. Razz

It is positively drenched in the philosophy of one particular individual (Sri Yukteswar, guru to Paramahamsa Yogananda), so much so that the more traditional concept barely shines through. A re-write would definately be necessary. (Though, I'm not volunteering. Wink

)

Arun, we here at the forum have - perhaps with a lack of precision - made it a habit to distinguish between Vaidika Dharma on the one hand and Sanatana Dharma on the other - for the reasons PD listed. Not all Non-Arya Samajists are necessarily Pauranics, and so a different term was needed to include other groups such as Smartis, for example. (However, I still have a bit of difficulty in establishing why exactly a Smarti couldn't accept the 10 Principles of the Arya Samaj...)
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Shyena · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject:

Yea i know its not a good article - the article was in a better state at one time, thought it was still in the same shape.. Or maybe it was the 'yuga dharma' article. BTW; it isn't 'smarthis' but 'smarthas' Razz

The differences would be..

arunk · Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:11 am Post subject:

Shishya and PD thanks for the clarification.

I thought that vedas are sanatan and those who follows vedic teaching are callled as sanatan.

I used to call myself sanatan. but I guess I was not right. Smile

Shishya · Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:17 am Post subject:

Namaste Arun,

You're not wrong in calling yourself Sanatan. After all, the full name is "Vaidika Satya Sanatana Dharma". It's just a habit we've formed here at the Arya Samaj Forum. Other Arya Samajists do not necessarily follow this distinction. So, you can still refer to yourself as a Sanatan. You just might run into a bit of confusion here and there in this group. Wink

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ॐ सह नावतु । सह तौ भुनक्तु । सह वीर्यं करवावहै । तेजस्वि नावधीतमस्तु मा विद्विषावहै ॥
"Together may we be protected. Together may we be profited. Together may we do a hero's work. May we learn intelligently. May we never hate one another."
-Brihadaranyaka & Taittiriya Upanishads

Prabhat · Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:41 am Post subject:

Namaste,

i know that vaidikh dharm is sanataan. but the problem here in holland and in suriname is, that people who are puranics believers, they call them self sanataan. thats why i call others than Arya's, sanataan.
and the sanataan believers here are most into Ram and Sita, Krishna, Ganesh, Hanoeman, and Laxmi and Shiva, the other Gods dont have so much believers. Confused

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Shyena · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: Off topic but..

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